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My position on the State is that of Reb Amram Bloy ZYA (or more technically of R’ Uriel Zimmer AH who was a Lubavitcher as well). Any morning that I need my alarm, it plays Hashem Hu Malkeinu and I sing it quite often on Shabbos and Yom Tov. (Reb Amram would in no way would have sanctioned the actions of those who call themselves Neturei Karta today). I will not face the flag of the state nor will I touch one, and there is a singer I will not listen to (not that I enjoy his style anyway) because he has recorded the anthem of the state on an album.
At no time did I ever believe the state had any intrinsic value, but living in Europe and seeing how Jews the world over are suffering because of its blunders, I have come to realize that the state must be dismantled.
I also know all too well that at this point the only one who can dismantle it safely with no further damage to the lives and well-being of Jews is Moshiach. Sadly, I fear that if he is delayed chas vesholom, and Obama is re-elected (and I do believe that barring Moshiach he will be re-elected because of the indolence of the average American), a one state solution will be imposed on the medine and Jews will flee in droves.
And why? Because, like the kingdoms of Yoravam ben Navot and Ahav and Izevel, the tzionish medine has no right to rule in Eretz haKoidesh. Hashem did give Yidden a chance to bring kedusha back to the land, but by and large it is a mamleches zadoin which has destroyed more Yiddishe neshomos than it has saved Yidden.
For me the blame lies with Roosevelt the rosho YMS, because had he allowed Jews to enter the US there would have been no need for the medine and in no way would it have been allowed to form. The tzioinim and all who participate in the government, including the charedi parties on anything above the municipal level, are tinoikos shenishbeu, and they are truly like tinoikois because they are as kids playing country the way kids play house or school.
Rav Kook was an odom godol who made a very big mistake. That is assuming that certain quotes attributed to him are spurious, which is what I believe. If those quotes are true, then he was more of a Carlebach free love type than a true rav beYisroel, but there is nothing except a few out of context quotes to suggest that this was the case. Instead, I believe that he simply could not foresee that the very ideology of the “pioneers” (more like oisvorfen) would lead to events such as stirring up anti-Semitism abroad, to say nothing of the forced secularization in the maabarot, the arrival of non-Jews from the FSU, etc, etc, etc.
We cannot be like all the peoples. We cannot be influenced by Western nationalism because we are not a Western nation. Without Torah, we are not a nation and any attempt to form a nation of Jewish people without Torah is a toeva, especially when that attempt is made in the Land of Israel.
The medine is a bastard child of the haskalah, not a dovor shebikdusha. Its institutions are pure, unadulterated sitra achra.
Finally, while Reb Amram Bloy ZYA is turning in his grave because of the nuts who usurped the name Neturei Karta as they visited Mad Mahmoud, at the end of the day, who armed terrorists in the “Balestinian Authority”? Yisroel Dovid Weiss? Nope. Ahron Cohen? Nope. Moshe Ber Beck? Nope. Those three clowns together perhaps managed to donate two pairs of torn gottkes and Beck’s old pajama bottoms to the Gaza refugee camps last time they visited.
So how about the government of the state? Yep.
Meshuggener Moishe Hirsch of the Ohel Hagar gang received $50K or so from Arafat YMS. That of course is unacceptable to put it mildly.
But even as their so called policeman carried out acts of terror on innocent Jews, the medine sent the PA $100 million. So who is the rosho? Whacko Hirsch who successfully schnorred money from the tzoirer YMS or the government which SENT THEM money so they could buy arms?
Hirsch, whose credentials are said to include serving as the Purim Rov of Yeshiva Chaim Berlin years ago, is as crazy as a fox (or was until he became uber ubotul); he is one of the inspirations for the Admou”r meCreedmoor.
The memsheles zadoin is crazy as a lemming, so suicidal as to arm its own enemies in exchange for worthless promises.