I remember when I was in yeshivah and the first couple of years beack in the world world
after I left yeshivah.
One family I used to go to for shabbos meals would not stop syaing the absolute worst loshon hara.
Everytime I tried to point out (no matter how gently and tactfully and carefully) I was always rebuffed and excuses were made why it was ok to tell the whole community that the father suupposeldy saw for example, someone eating a cheeese burger, and everyone including those who had never heard of the guty just had to know about this.
But when them or their friends did something blatently wrong (such as beating up people in public, who got in their way when they were going somehwere) and someone mentioned this suddenly they were all aghast “How DARE you say such Loshon Hara!!!”
Some who complain about others, are the worst offenders, doing everything (and worse) they would accuse (often falsly) and attack others for.
Anyone want to take any bets that I will be accused of having talked about someone by name, when I did not?