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“However, as Helpful pointed out, why would the Gemora bring down a story if not to approve of it? And as Midwest2 said, which yeshivos did you learn in that you are so confident in your explanations of what the Gemora means? Did you even read the Gemora once? Probably not, no? So then what gives you the ability to explain to us what the Gemora is or is not referring to?”

I did not read the Gemarah, it was read and taught to us in classes on tznius and Taharas hamishpacha, to make the point of why we need to cover our hair after marriage. My teacher was very careful to point out that this was not meant to imply it was a must-do. The story of Kimchis was not meant to convey that she is an absolute role model to be emulated, but rather it is her dedication to tznius that IS to be emulated.

Her attitude and hashkafa, but not necessarily her actions, were to teach us something about personal modesty, to the point that even the “walls of a house” have feelings. We see this same idea of sensitivity when Moshe Rabbeinu was supposed to speak to Selah to get water, and instead he hit it. If an inanimate object deserved to be treated with respect, how much more so are we mechuyavim to treat live creations of Hashem with respect and dignity. If we must be sensitive even to the sensibilities of the walls of a house which cannot have a reaction, kal v’chomer our tznuius must be proper in front of people who DO react.

BTW, someone does not have to be a Gemarah learner to hear something told and learn from it or have a personal insight from it. Don’t disparage that. We say mekal melamdi hiskalti. That would seem redundant, because melamdi means those who have taught me. So from all those who have taught me I have gained wisdom seems like a double loshon. The idea is that everyone has some wisodom to impart, and it is the wise person who learns something from everyone who has something to teach him, even from an ignorant person like me, who didn’t learn Gemarah. I didn’t learn all the midrashim, either, but it does not take a talmid chochom to know that the fruit Chava gave to Odom could not have simultanesously been a grape, an esrog, a piece of wheat, and whatever else Chazal say. It’s not about the words that are written, but about the idea that is being conveyed by those words.

Have a good Shabbos.