Reply To: Tablecloths on Sukkos

Home Forums Yom Tov Sukkos Tablecloths on Sukkos Reply To: Tablecloths on Sukkos

#698046
mw13
Participant

Yanky55:

“One of the biggest problems with yeshivos today, is that they are producing young men (or sheep) who can’t figure out the most simple issue for themselves. For every little thing they have to run to the Rebbe or Rosh Yeshiva.”

Yes, what a terrible problem. People consulting Rebbeim and Roshei Yeshivos. Terrible.

I’m sorry, did I miss something? What exactly is the problem here?

“There are times when a Rav is not available and it is critical that benei Torah be able to make some decisions for themselves.”

Yes, it is crucial that bnei Torah know what the basic halachos are. However, anything more serious can and should be asked to a Rav.

“The Torah is NOT black and white. There are many grey areas. Here’s an example. Lying. The Torah says “Midvar sheker tirchok”. According to you it’s black and white that if you are a guest at someone’s house and you think a certain dish is disgusting, you should say so (if the host asks you). Common sense dictates that YOU SHOULD LIE AND SAY IT IS DELICIOUS. I teach my kids all the time that there are situations when it is okay to lie. So you see, it is NOT black and white at all.”

Of course one should not tell their host that a dish is disgusting: the halacha clearly states that one can and should lie for the sake of sholom.

“There are times when seichel has to take precedence over the halacha.”

Not in Orthodox Judaism, there isn’t. Ever. Period.

The seichel can dictate what the halacha should be under x conditions, but nobody and nothing can ever CH”V “take precedence over the halacha”. The entirety of Yiddishkeit is to obey the Torah, and nothing else. If you don’t do that, I’m not entirely sure what gives you the right to consider yourself frum.

apushatayid: Got it. We’ll have to see what mamashtakah, the one who quoted this Rebbe (more than once, if I’m not mistaken), has to say to that.