oomis1105:
“”Well apparently, the Gemora says there was more than one reason. Not sure why this got such a sarcastic reaction from you…”
Really? Maybe because I am tired of all the ills of Klal Yisroel continuously being attributed to something that WOMEN have done. Every bad thing that happens apparently is because of something women are or are not doing.”
First of all, nobody here made this up, it’s a Gemora. If you’re tired of the Gemora blaming women, take it up with Hashem, not us.
Second, precisely which “ills of Klal Yisroel” are “continuously being attributed to something that WOMEN have done”?
“Men need to take responsibility for their actions that are delaying Mashiach from coming.”
Agreed, but so do women. This isn’t a one-way street in either direction.
“The Gemarah clearly states that it was sinas chinam that was responsible for the Churban.”
The Gemora also apparently states that women wearing too much cosmetics was the reason for the Churban. You can’t pick and choose.
“To make a moral equivalency between the wearing of cosmetics by womem…”
The Gemora says the problem was women wearing too much cosmetics, not that women should never wear cosmetics at all.
“…with the extreme evil of sinas chinam, is unfair, to say the least.”
Are you calling the Gemora “unfair, to say the least”? If you have a problem with the Gemora, the problem is with you, not the Gemora.
“The many halachos we have referring to mitzvos bein adam l’chaveiro would seem to validate the idea that He very much cares about people who are mean to each other”
And the many halachos about tzniyus would seem to validate the idea that He very much cares about how women dress. I’m not sure why you think the two are mutually exclusive. And again, you can’t pick and choose.
SJSinNYC: No, I don’t either 🙂