pascha bchochma:
“Just to clarify: the sun / moon comment was said tongue in cheek.”
Well that explains a lot.
“Zeh l’umas zeh, I figured that if you can blame me with cherry-picked chazals for the evils of the world.”
Whoa. I’m not blaming women “for the evils of the world”: the Churban happened for a number reasons, caused by all different people. I was trying to point out that if one of those causes was women using too much cosmetics, it certainly shows that this should not be taken lightly.
“Yes, we all know how girls are expected to somehow be a mother, wife, and hard worker who earns enough to support a family, unless lucky enough to have rich parents…”
As I said before, nobody got off easy in this world.
“I guess my point here is that we should each work on our own nisyonos, instead of trying to tell others what they think they should be doing.”
I disagree. I think this whole “mind your own business” attitude is solely from the western culture, and foreign to Yiddishkeit. And besides, it may be enlightening to hear about things we struggle with from people without negius on the subject.
“it was inappropriate for the men in this thread to tell us that wearing our (tzanua and tasteful) makeup is what’s preventing the geulah, just as it would be inappropriate for us to tell the males on this site that their spending time in the coffee room (both irl and here) is preventing Moshiach from coming.”
First of all, nobody ever said wearing “tzanua and tasteful makeup is what’s preventing the geulah”. That was specifically said about excessive makeup.
Second, what’s inappropriate about saying “the males on this site… their spending time in the coffee room (both irl and here) is preventing Moshiach from coming” (assuming you can prove it)? The truth is the truth, no matter who’s mouth it comes from.