so right- I am not saying gedarim are not appropriate. I am saying that men should practice “shmiras anayim” as well. Why is it always “women need to do….” instead of how “men should not look, should control their thoughts/eyes/urges”? yes, calling people “mr and ms” is appropriate and should be done- but making the women lock themselves in closets, wear a bag over their head, or dress in potato sacks should not have to be done. If the women are covered (elbows, knees, hair if married ect) and dressed according to halacha then the woman’s job is complete
Men should not be enticed by little things. Its the man’s problem and he should fix it. teaching tzniyus is important- but the men should protect themselves too.