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Please don’t think that I’m trying to hoist the chasidish way on anybody. We have here a discussion of where to go so I added another alternative. Many yeshivish boys will only go to a hotel lobby. They won’t take a girl to a lounge or restaurant. One reason is pure economics, it’s cheaper. Not everybody becomes engaged after 2 dates, not every boy and girl are engaged the first time. So this can become quite expensive. We all have our cultures with different rules and traditions. Each sector of Klal Yisroel should do what the general community they are in does. Without criticising another sector. Many chasidim do go out on dates, although not 7-8 times. Many chasidim have perfectly arranged marriages. Hi son/daughter, you’re getting engaged tonight to “boy/girl”. Each sector seems to look askance at the other. No reason for this. Do whatever your social circle does.