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since i was the one who started this i will explain what i meant. I hav heard many times ppl puting down the yeshiva guys for things that yeshiva guys do and not recognising that even if they are doing some stuff wrong i.e. smoking they are still people that are busy doing what god wants them to! how many balabatim are bney aliyah {and the few that are, its great} i am not puting working guys down but we hav to realize that yeshiva guys are busy doing holy work and that in itself should put them on a pedistal! btw there were torah giants who held a kollel guy should generaly not take out the garbage because he is a guy learning torah all day so just because you dont like it if he is doing it because he is following those gedolim he is doing the right thing!!