yid.period, I’m not sure if we’re communicating here. Let’s try this one more time:
I believe that the yeshiva world believes that one should live only to serve Hashem, as opposed to the modern world that believes one of the things one should live for is to serve Hashem but that other things are OK also. Hope that cleared up what I’m trying to say.
“And if you want to define MO as someone who is affected by secular culture as you’ve said before, then everyone in lakewood is MO as well, because everyone’s dress has adapted according to society’s acceptable standards. Even the coveted black hat developed from what was considered distinguished in Europe.”
I’m sorry, but Europe is no longer “modern”. Being modern means being affected by today’s culture, not yesterday’s.