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yid.period
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Really?

Adding the word “Period” and speaking in a confident tone are not excuses for substance. It isn’t anymore intellectually farfetched (much less so) to conclude that Hashem exists (and all the wonderful non-qualities we attribute to him…) than to conclude a nation happened to survive persecution.

You may say there is no precedent?

Where is your precedent for Hashem?

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ll make the assumption you’ve had a pretty sheltered upbringing, so you’ve never really discussed this with anybody who didnt already believe in Hashem? And if you did, you weren’t successful in your persuasion? Again, biases are hard to shed but try to do a cheshbon hanefesh to relate to these people. Otherwise a conversation with them will just turn them off more.

Just a seperate point (responders: please do NOT just respond to this last point… try to address what I’ve said above as well… I’ve noticed this is common practice to nitpick a point and ignore all other evidence) Isn’t there a axiom of bechirah chofshi? nisayon? schar? If everything was so clear cut, and farfetched otherwise, how would the world mesh with these principles?