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April 6, 2011 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm
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popa_bar_abba
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There was no “jump” in logic.
I posited that if there is something which existed without creation, we might be able to use logic to figure out what it was.
It makes no sense for matter to exist without creation.
It does make sense for a supreme being to exist without creation.
We might debate what makes sense and what doesn’t, but ultimately, I think everyone has to agree that it makes no sense for matter to exist without creation. So the question is what we could conceive might exist without creation.