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August 5, 2011 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #795566
gavra_at_work
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I believe that MO philosophy of Judaism does not include belief in this ‘Diveikus’ concept.

Whoa, heavy, but totally not.

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I think the “Devaikus” you are discribing is a very Chassidish concept (if that). Litvak “Charaidim” (such as the GRA) would not agree, or would agree in the abstract, but not as the main purpose. The GRA and other litvaks would say the core of doing Mitzvos is to fulfill the Ratzon Hashem to do them.

BTW, bringing in movies does not help your argument in any fashion, it just shows you have some agenda.