Actually it is very easy to be assur on everything if you don’t know the halachas that distinguish the issue between mutar and assur. It is very easy to say assur on everything and that makes life simpler than to actually understand why something is mutar. That is the difference of just stam a RAV and a Posek who is on a higher madreigah and has studied more to be ABLE to KNOW and actually pasken sheilos for these very reasons. It is not a matter of looking for a heter or doing whatever you can to have your coffee.
Obviously a Hechsher organization who says its mutar has way more knowledge on this issue than anyone stam speculating on why it should not be. They would have discussed among THEIR POSKIM the ins and outs of ALL the various situations and questions regarding the issues and halachas involved.
So are we arguing stam to argue? Are we trying to say that the we know more than the hechsher organizations who say it is mutar? Are we saying that the Hechsher organizations are not valid? What exactly is the point of the conversation at this juncture? Where are we going with this?