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600 Kilo Bear -“In any case the point is moot. No MO school is going to accept a new student for senior year (age 17) and there is no more time to even try because classes start the week after next.”

In this particular case, you’re probably right, but I see no harm in trying. And if getting into a MO school is hard at this point, can you imagine trying to get him into a regular Yeshiva now?!?

“Adjustment issues is a polite way of saying that the MO school won’t work out either which means back to square one.

It has happened in almost every instance I know of where someone tried that route – and the end result was complete OTD.

MO is a completely different world. Just the more rigorous secular studies program would cause more problems for a bochur coming from a regular yeshiva. So would the social order.”

Like I just posted to MP, it really depends which direction the kid is going. If he wants to be given a second chance and is upset with his behavior, a more rigorous program will help him excel and build his self-esteem. If on the other hand, they are on they way down, then you’re correct he will become OTD and possibly bring others along. This is when you need to get the kid professional help or into one of these “schools” made for guys like this!