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mikehall -“I know there is a thread on it, but I’m referring more to a major news site carrying the story and making us look like fools….to the outside world a Jew is Jwe, they don’t see the difference.”

Now let me ask you a question -Why are you embarrassed or feel like a fool because of a few Jews’ actions in Bet Shemesh?

1. You don’t consider yourself to be from the same religion -you consider yourself MO and they think MO isn’t Frum. (Rightly so.)

So this isn’t it -so maybe —

2. You’re related to them. Perhaps these guys are your cousins, brothers, sisters, etc. This I highly doubt because then you would be too embarrassed to even talk about it.

So the only reason you could be embarrassed is because people might question you about them and you’re to weak and meek to answer them.

You could just say that me & them aren’t the same religion. I’m MO & they are Ultra-orthodox. Just like a conservative or reform Jew would answer.

Now what would I answer? Since me & them have the same religion.

I’d say like this – I’ve been in jails and I’ve met up with criminal’s families. Not only does e/o in jail think they are innocent -so does all their families.

Then I’d say what religion are you? And let’s say they said Xtian. I’d ask them -Do you feel guilty everytime a Xtian commits murder or any other crime?

And they say -“No, of course not.” Then I’d say what about the families of Xtian criminals -do they feel guilty or do they cry and scream that their innocent loved one is in jail (which they do)? They’d say – “I dunno”. I’d reply – “I do know and they don’t in the least bit. So why in the world should I care that some Orthodox Jew spit on some kid -I’m not even related to him &

Why in the world are you questioning me about his actions?”

If you are obssessed with Jewish guilt -then just use this guilt for everytime you yourself Does something wrong, not anybody else!