@Avi K – honestly I couldn’t care less what Rav Kook says. If you’re looking for those following Rav Kook you’re on the wrong forum. (True, I’m not exactly part of the “yeshiva world” either, but rabbonim of the “yeshiva world” are generally closer to my opinions than to those of Rav Kook – check Rav Shach or Rav Avigdor Miller for example).
You write: “I also heard from Rav Yehuda ben Yishai that there is “erev raviut” – lack of belief in the Geula. As NK continues its denial (I leave whhy to the psychologists) that we are in the beginning of the Geula (atchalta d’Geula) that also fits.”
So you’re categorizing all chareidim under “erev rav”. Thanks for clarifying that.
There is no point in continuing this discussion, why do you keep going on? You are not going to move 1 cm from your position and I am not going to move 1 cm from my position, so why waste your time?