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gubbish
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gemara in kesubos 111A says the pasukim- “hisbati eschem bnos yerushalayim…” refers to 3 shavuos. one of them is “shelo yaalu yisrael b’chomah.” rashi says “b’yad chazakah” meaning klal yisroel promised we wont forcibly take back eretz yisroel before mashiach comes. The reason a majority of Rabbonim do not find this to be problematic is because we did not “conquer” the land of israel, we diplomatically were given it. The Satmer Rebbe R’ Yoel was against the state of Israel. I’m not sure how exactly those who follow his view use this gemara.