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gavra: your personal attack on Health was just wrong. you should be a gavra and apologize publicly on this thread.
Ittisa also said I went over the line. I was thinking about the right way to say it, but I haven’t come up with it yet. So I’ll simply retract my statement and apologize for the hurt that it caused. Health is your name, and may you be blessed with health.
squeak: I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m just bringing the objection for people who say things are true because “they are the truth!”. Otherwise I have no beef in this discussion one way or the other (and don’t really care one way or the other). As I said earlier, I was taught that it did happen, and I THINK that it did happen. That doesn’t prove that it did happen.