logician- i simply mean that the fact it isnt needed or useful by all doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. the tzushel was to be mekarev it el haseichel to daas baalebatim. i do agree after elul zman its a bit much.
avi k- Married men went to learn?? are you insinuating that kollel existed before twenty years ago and isnt a product of lakewood??