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Here is the only way that i can see a problem. There is a machlokes acharonim as follows. The bais Halevey holds that if the sheliach tzibur (actually his case was the rav) missed a night and can’t count with a brocho he can save face with the following trick. he can ask someone in the tzibur not to make a brocho and he can me motzei that person. Others argue. The root of their argument is as to how we view a person who missed a night. Do we say that he is still obligated in the mitzvoh, just aht he has no way to be makayim it, in which case we apply the rule of arvus and he can be motei someone else. Or do we say that once he missed a night he is no longer a metzuvah bedavar and therefore can not be motzei someone else. If one holds like the second then you would not have been able to be motzei someone else. If, and generally this is not the case, someone in the tzibur was being yotzeh either the berocho or the sefira (which he should not have done) with you, he would not be yotzei