Also, my point in saying that this punishment was used on me and didn’t scar me or a lot of other people i know and respect shows that there is not necessarily a correlation between get punished in school and going off the derech
Nobody is saying it is a 1:1 correlation. But it is idiotic to say that it cannot ever be a factor.
which btw is always humiliating…you think getting sent to the principal, sent home, detention etc isn’t? so do you suppose we should never punish our kids?
Don’t you think there is a difference between a punishment which happens to be embarrassing, and a punishment where the entire point is humiliation?
If you know your teacher loves you and really wants the best for you; and Baruch Hashem there are plenty of teachers like that, then the punishment isn’t as humiliating.
I don’t think this makes sense. The entire punishment here is the humiliation. There is no other purpose.