rsrh, no denigration intended. Indeed, the world outside the beis medresh is where we apply halacha. But the person I was responding to twisted things in an upside-down New Age direction: he said that the goal is to “know ourselves,” that we should do this by mingling with goyim on the job, and that this is “chinuch.” By that logic, we don’t really know kosher food until we eat a rabbit, we don’t really know shmiras Shabbos until we do chillul Shabbos, etc., all of which being “chinuch.” “Ibmzr” feels that his place is in learning and is aghast about being forced out, and as one who was also forced out I refuse to join with anyone who makes light of it.
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