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rabbiofberlin
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Daasyochid: I think that you misunderstand me and many of us who have qualms about the way kollelim are organized. We all understand that there are individuals who should consecrate their energies and lives to Torah so as to become the Poskim and the Manhigim.We all understand that these people should be helped by the tsibbur (not unlike asoroh batlonim). I am sure you know that throughout the centuries, wealthy jews always took as their sons-in law talmidei chachomim and helped them for years to study. (until they got a position, by the way). What people object to today is the blanket acceptance that everone should learn in a kollel “le-olam vo-ed”. THAT- for sure- was never the case and that, for sure, will bankrupt us. Take selected individuals- help them for a number of years and to that, no one would object.

The teshuva from R’Moshe zz’l does not address this at all, He is commenting on the Rambam ,who abhorred taking money for Torah, and the Piskei halocho in later generations that allowed this for Rabbonim and melamdim . R’Moshe zz”l himself never stayed in kollel for years- he was Rov of Lubian at age 22 (I think) !

As fsr as MK’s and knesset- this will inevitably be part of the compromise-that some people will be exmpt from army duty (say,after a number of kids or years) and allow them to enter the job market. Finaces will clearly be curtailed and we will see then how the chareidi olam will react. I venture to say that the chassidische olam will accept it…and the yeshivishe olam? who knows…