various answers to some of the posters:
to choppy- your “pilpul” sounds interesting but it is just that, a pilpul- look in shulchan aruch ,roemo and shach and the various Poskim- they all consider receiving money from the tsibbur as tsedokoh, regardless whether it is for a valued and legitimate cause(see also Ridvaz on the rambam, hilchos shemitta too, 13-12)
to daas yochid (and hello99); again, you are using legitimate opinions to make a blanket decision. The remo, the Shach and other acharonim clearly allow to receive money from the tsibbur (or the pupils) so as to be able to ba a Rov, a ‘melamed” and other ‘klei kodesh”. Therev is only one reference in the shach to “melamdim and lomdim” 9see R’moshe’s teshuva that daas yochid quoted). All other references were about beign a Rov or a teachign the talmidim. Now- no one is disputing the need to finance some of the people who go to yesiva and/or kollel. It is the INDISCRIMINATE financing that most people object to. THAT clearly has never happened in our history ! Even in our very recent past (see Gateshead kollel, Lakewood kollel in the beginning) not every person who got married went into the kollel and should get paid. THAT is the question, not the fiancing of selected talmidim.
to hello99- I don;t livein eretz ysroel now but I have m ydobuts whether every peorson you qoute cares about the people learning Torah. it is the misuse of these deferments that rankles people.
to nossond- thanks for your derush but when an enemy ewnats to kill you, you kill him first. Ergo- an army in Israel.Incidentally,what were the Chashmonoim and Bar Kochva? The golus of Yaakov?