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rabbiofberlin
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choppy and popa- you can try yout utmost in your reasoning (this is why I called it a pilpul) but paying kollel jungeleit is ZEDAKAH !! if you have a private arrangement with someone in a Yissoschot and zevulun mode, maybe you can claim this is not zedakah, but EVERYTHING ELSE, every pruttah coming from the tsibbur is zedokoh. I would include tuition but we can argue about this. However, you never asked the rest of the community whether they want to have an arrangement like yissoschor and zevulun (or like a father-in-law) and this is why there is so much antagonism against kollelim- people have not accepted this idea that everyone should learn at the expense of the tsibbur.

popa- you are quoting a daas jochid in R’Nehoroi-look at the gemoro berochos 35B.

and- the story you mention about girls in lakewood only re-inforces my argument. There are countless girls who cannot get a shidduch because the boys are advised to find a “rich’ shidduch and the girls with parents who are not rich suffer.

Also, popa- you are wrong in your percentages. You forgot to count the tens of thousands of young bachurim who are learning. Don’t they count??

Lastly-oomis1105- thank you for being on my side. After all, we seem to be the adults in the room. And, by the way, you are one hudnred percent right in quoting the gemoro that not having a trade will bring someone to steal. Kiddushin 82a.