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Feif Un:

“The point is, you can say you disagree with someone in a proper manner, and still respect the person. When you decide to withdraw from a massive event which is supposed to show achdus because you disagree with the hashkafa of someone there, it is wrong.”

To quote from R’ Shwab ZTZ”L:

If you were to hold Zionism is completely and thoroughly assur, would it be such a stretch to apply this type of shitah to it as well? To not give Zionism any recognition whatsoever?

Now obviously, you do not hold this shitah, and neither does the majority of the Chassidish, Yeshivish, and certainly Dati Leumi communities. But according to the Satmar view of Zionism, nothing that they’re doing can be said to be “wrong”. (And either way, its certainly not sinas chinom.)

MiddlePath:

“When we have an opportunity to give honor to G-d and His Torah, we should do so without worrying about how we look in other people’s eyes, without being concerned with our own comfort zones. Giving honor to G-d’s Torah, which is what this event is for, should take precedence over your own honor.”

Please. This has absolutely nothing to with anybody’s honor or comfort zones. This is about Satmar/Vishnitz refusing, Hirsch-style, to give any recognition to a shitah they believe to be completely in the wrong.

yichusdik:

“He called the Knesset botei minus, and yet has allowed Degel HaTorah to participate in it; allowed mosdos over which he had authority to take government funds; allowed those who followed him to use the roads, hospitals, electrical grids, water sources, and social services provided by the laws and administration of the beis minus. I simply don’t get it. I’ve tried to understand, but my limited intellect is not up to the task. Why is it OK to take from what one sees as Tomei? Can someone please explain?”

Why does one have to approve of everything a state does to use its infrastructure? The American government today recognizes same-gender marriages as being just as legitimate as any other one, and supports and even subsidies the systematic murder of unborn babies. Does this mean we shouldn’t use the roads, hospitals, electricity, etc?