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yeshivishsocrates -“I will not corroborate your theory about my background, my response is irrespective of that. At the end of the day (totally overused phrasing) the man in question is suffering from an issue, compulsion or addicition, depends on whom you ask, but regardless he is suffering.”
Where did you learn English so well? Are you a Yeshiva Bochur that goes to college also?
“If, according to you, he needs help, you still cannot deny the importance of his wife being supportive of his issue.”
Well she wants to be supportive, but she doesn’t know how. That’s why she came here looking for advice.
“Not making it one to be ashamed of infront of her or making it one which makes him feel like an animal.”
Well if she would confront him, these things might be his reaction, so she might not want to confront him.
“Even with proffessional help, which i dont deny will be useful, just redundant,”
Ah, hypocrisy at its’ finest. You did deny it and I’ll quote -“it is not one which can be helped with anti addiction treatments.”
But at least you are finally getting my point!
“he will need self control and a supporting wife.”
The supporting wife part, I don’t disagree with, but some people can’t have self-control and that’s why they need Professional Mental help.
“You seem to be more intent on nit picking and playing semantics with my words than responding to the point behind them.”
Actually you are and that’s why you keep posting these long-winded posts.
“Addiction or compulsion, his loving wife should sit with him and help him to find a solution, they dont need to blog about it, they dont need medicine, they just need eachother and some perserverence.”
This is why Non-adults should Not post their opinion on adult themes. You keep posting the same Nonsense. She doesn’t know how to find a solution, nor is it necessarily her responsibility. She does have the responsibility to try to get him help, whether this is with a Rov familiar with these issues or with a therapist.
“What you seem to have done is subtracted the place of bechira by making it a psychological issue which is beyond his control. Its not – hes not crippled by it, he is just struggling with an issue, in the same way as each and everyone of us, barring possibly mrs Health, struggle with some sort of issue in our religious observence.”
Now, you’re making me into a woman. No, I have not removed his Bechira. My point is you can still have Bechira, but to make the right choice you need help. This help will have to be from some sort of professional. No, I don’t think Guard Your Eyes.org is sufficient enough.
To illustrate, most Yeshivos allow smoking or turn the other way.
Now, without going into the physical dependence issue because we do find people who just quit without help, why don’t they Assur smoking? Since they have Bechira, they could just stop. It’s not physically impossible to stop, just hard. The same is true with Internet addiction, it’s mentally hard to stop and they need professional help to overcome it.