yeshivishsocrates -“Proofs in situations like these are meaningless. If i prove that someone succeeded in quitting the nocturnal adult entertainment through white knuckled perseverence, youd say it was in spite of the fact that he didnt seek help. If you prove that someone did quit with help, id just say that he could have also done it alone.”
I’m not looking for absolute proof. What I want from you is even one real case that this has worked and then we can argue about which way will be more successful. Without even one case of cold turkey – how do you know this is even a real possibility, not just a utopian theory?