Reply To: Torah values are NOT Chicago values!

dd -“Here we have a company that sells treif food to Jews and no one blinks – and they shouldn’t.

However, when it comes to gay marriage, we get people like the original poster ranting about toeiva.”

You came here to poke fun (irony), but you didn’t even understand my point. My point wasn’t against Toeiva -I’ve posted and ranted against them umteen times – my post was regarding those Jews -Frum or not – who are happy and proud when we have a Jewish politician, no matter how Anti-Torah his views are.

“The Torah doesn’t say anything about gay marriage. The Torah assurs and condemns certain activities that gays do.”

This is your Am Haarotzos speaking. The Gemmora says that Hashem brings destruction to the world when they write Kesubos one to another -ie. civil marriage.

“And as far as government policy about recognizing marriage between gays – I don’t see why it is any of our concern. I certainly don’t see why it brings out such rabid condemnation. As a community we don’t even vocally oppose institutions of definite avodah zora.”

I just posted why we care -it brings destruction to the world.

“I certainly would not say that kol hapasul bemumo pasul for everyone who opposes gays, but certainly there is psychological evidence that it sometimes applies to those who are most vehemently anti gay.”

This shows how assimilated you are. This ridiculous argument you picked up from the militant Toeiva camp. In order to shut up any opposition to them -they resort to mind games. I truly hope you really don’t believe this and are just rebounding what you heard from them.

That’s a big problem in the US -lots of people here are passive and don’t stand up for their beliefs. But it doesn’t matter -they still have make laws outlawing the other 6 Mitzvos Bnai Noach. Them keeping it themselves is Not good enough. So if a Goy is PC regarding Toeiva “rights”, then they aren’t keeping the seventh Mitzva.