Sam, I’m afraid that might have been his point, but nu… feer ois, what does that have to do with anything? I also dont understand the relevance of his point to this thread. I also dont see why you would substitute him for the Gra, it is so irrelevant, its like bringing up those against the Rambam. Also while you try to defend Feif Un you hypocriticially bring up a story that has much less bearing on the case at hand than anything I said.
Englishman well said. I’ll add that its actually been 200 years starting as soon as R Chaim Volozhiner and that people curiously skip out point c as an option. And it seems to me that people here and in general have a perverse, un-Torahdik, attraction to bringing up this controversy and like to jump to conclusions, assumptions, assertions, when most of the time it is completely incorrect. They totally disregard the reality that they are speaking against hundreds of Tzaddikim (baalei mofes if you want a mofes). So dont go “he did so why cant I?” or “Its not my opinion”. And making light of it like saying Nanachs and Lubabs does not stay with you, it spreads and breeds more misinformation with people who do become serious with it, and say things like “the gzeira was never nisbatel” (like yitay who is supposed to be smart). And thats why Moshiach is not here yet (opinion of Gdolei Hador).