As was mentioned, when the source of a proof is nogea bedavar, the proof is suspect. At times there are several ways to see things, but the view of the son of the (potential) underdog (lets use the baal hatanya as a proxy for chasidim) that his father was not only correct, but that the dissenters were actually in agreement (save for other proofs which you had not yet furnished) seems a bit weak
RavHamachshir- I don't see how it's a week proof *at all*, and I never said its the only proof, and it isn't. Please explain what makes it a week proof. What are you suspecting, a lie or a misunderstanding? Why would you suspect that?