rabbiofberlin -“englishman-health and all the others: you keep on fighting very old battles and have added little of substance. The facts on the ground are concrete- there is a medinah today- its dismantling would cause the death and exile of millions of jews and-unless we have chas vecholilo a third churban- is totally delusionary. To say-as you said- that the satmarer rebbe prayed for its “peaceful’ dissolution is a delusion and, to boot, a dangerous delusion.”
You and all the other Zionists are in a delusional state. And you keep repeating the same old – same old. You think by repeating it umpteen times that it becomes true?!?! And stop with if we give away the Medina it will cause bloodshed. I posted about this before in the topic of “Argument against the Madina”:
“Hakatan- I agree with everything you say , but this:
“Regarding the latter, there is no question that the State of Israel exists and that since they have (foolishly) assumed responsibility (sad as that has been) for so many of our brethren, they cannot simply pack their bags.”
Who says? Maybe the Turks will take it, if offered?
They never hated Jews and until recently they even liked the State of Israel.”
“Lastly, I still have not seen one mention of a “Psak halacha” by the Satmarer rebbe. The sholosh shevuos are not halacha.”
Edited: Saying something is Ossur -means that’s the Halacha! Here is the quote again:
“Three Oaths through their provocation and rebellion against the Nations, which is prohibited by the Torah,”