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Bubka,

Same hours, no secular studies, more Limudei Torah.

Great in theory, but for the vast majority, it doesn’t work. They need other pursuits, and if there’s no secular studies program, they’ll find some less wholesome activities to engage in.

You also seem to ignore my point that a shoddy secular studies program is a disaster (and hence to identify a mesivta which has one, unless talking to someone considering sending to that mesivta, is surely L”H).

Even your point about replacing secular studies with more learning has nothing to do with a bad secular program, which is still, besides the other negatives, a waste of time.

If someone would post the name of a mesivta which had no secular studies program, I wouldn’t call it L”H. But there’s no rational way to defend referring to a yeshiva’s secular program as “not serious”.