AZ: I hear your point about a total fix for the next gen (i.e. this year’s seminary) girls. But I don’t think even you believe there will be enough of a groundswell of change, that fast, for your fix to *fully* fix it for that gen.
DY: Incorrect, there is absolutely no C”H by getting kedushin but not getting a civil marriage registration. It is fully legal to not be legally married while being religiously married, and it is totally kosher and legal.
And re: the R”Y, I was specifically told he doesn’t care whether there is or isn’t a civil registration (and if there is he would prefer to not be bothered to sign it as the officiating clergyman.) BTW (as a side point), regarding someone not being mesader unless there is a civil registration, in NY State you can only file a civil marriage registration AFTER the clergyman (i.e. mesader) officiated at the wedding. (You must get a license to marry before the ceremony, but if you don’t follow it up with a signed registration within 30 days, the license expires without any legal effect.) So it would be a bit difficult to refuse to be mesader without civilly registering the marriage , other than to inform the groom at every wedding that you insist he file the registration and then trust he will.