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artchill, I read Rashi. It is an explanation, but it seems to be inconsistent with the Tanna Kama who is quoted next, who gives permission to the childless to have kids – and it has to do with #s, not with pleasure.
Did someone mention welfare and food stamps? What thread are you replying to?
And I wasn’t making an “argument” that needed to be debunked! I don’t have an agenda on this topic.
I was wondering who was going to wander in with a straw man to take down. You win the sweepstakes.
akuperma, I tend to agree with you, and aderaba, I found it hard to understand that there were many families (among them many of my ancestors) who had documented more than 10-15 kids even in the depths of the crusades and other persecutions, which were in some cases accompanied by famine and exile. Obviously they didn’t hold that this applied, but I was asking precisely that.
Why not? It isn’t just a random thought by R. Lakish. The TK endorsed it with the detailed exception.