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Health – you are living in a fatasy world that is based on your own magical mathematics. You say “I personally hold you shouldn’t take money from the Medina for schools and you owe them nothing including going to their army.” However, you’re obviously oblivious to the basics of economics and life in a society. You think that the only reason you owe the country that you’re living in something is because you get money for your schools!?!?!? The Torah says that the law of the land (any land) is the law that a Torah observant Jew must follow. The laws of the land of Israel have the same halacha and possibly even more so. This is NOT a time or place where the king is demanding excessive taxes that may allow us to halachically not pay them. Anyone living here (even non-citizens) uses tremendous amounts of resources – healthcare, roads, garbage collection, police, fire, electrical & water infrastructure, airport, defense services, the economy, agriculture, etc, etc, etc. You owe something to the government and people here even if you don’t take money for your schools!

Now, very concerning to me is your claim that “You can be part of Medical insurance because these type of things every country has.” I’m not sure what you’re even referring to but you have certainly justified to yourself the use of a VERY expensive service despite not paying the full bill for it. This country provides a socialized medicine system but that’s NOT the case in most countries at all! I guess some people aren’t aware (Obama supporters sure aren’t) that even socialized medicine has to be paid for. In Israel, there are income taxes that go toward paying for that healthcare – it’s one of the reasons we have higher tax rates than in the US. However, if you aren’t paying full income taxes then you are using very expensive services without paying for it. After a few too many people do that, the system becomes unsustainable and that’s precisely what the current situation is. That’s why there are so many people working to change this situation but the chareidi tzibur just run around saying this is all about “closing yeshivas” and trying to make the chareidim not religious. It’s rediculous and obnoxious to say… the best is when you then call anyone who wants to build a fair and sustainable system “goyim” (all the words of the chareidi parties, NOT mine!)