Reply To: Blaming the Same Gender Unions: A Personal Rant

2. We see from Chazal that protesting is sometimes called for. There are other cases, by goyim, too, such as Moshe Rabbeinu when Yisro’s daughters said Ish Mitzri, etc.

I can’t tell you one can directly extrapolate from Korach to this. But the concept is definitely there, and if gedolim say to protest it then this Chazal seems to be at least a “deyka” or indicator that this is, in fact, correct.

3. Lot would have been destroyed in Sedom, too, were it not for Avraham Avinu. The shachain part may refer to Jews (or may refer to non-Jews, too). But it’s not only a Jewish-Jewish relationship.

Let me get this straight. I bring a proof directly from R’ Shternbuch, who says to go to one protest, and only one protest. And R; Eliyashiv, zt”l, who never said to go to such a protest, yet did say to go to another (Emmanuel). And that can’t be learned from. Yet the fact that Moshe was watching Yisro’s daughters getting attacked can be learned from?

Talk about a double standard!

A protest can’t be learned from Yisro or Lot

Lot was saved by malachim because he had a zechus. (Kivan sheNitan reshus…?)

Avraham davened for him, he did not protest, he did not try to educate the people of Sdom. He kept far away.

Even when he told Lot to go right or left, R’ Schwab asks “Why right or left? Why not North or South? He didn’t say North or South cause Sdom was South and Avraham didnt want to go there, nor did he want Lot to go there.

Moshe saved people whom he saw getting attacked. He did not need to. We don’t learn from Moshe that one needs to. This was lfinim mishuras hadin.

But the concept is definitely there, and if gedolim say to protest it then this Chazal seems to be at least a “deyka” or indicator that this is, in fact, correct.

It seems like R’ Miller was really a daas yachid on this. He was a gadol and is entitled to be a daas yachid, but even the R’ Shmuel letter was based upon “R’ Miller says”