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Daniel Rosen
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“NEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER mouth off to a judge.

The judge is 100% right.

Stupid dumb girl.”

“She needs her mouth washed out with soap.

Nerve to mouth off to a judge like that.”

I thought this was a frum environment? What is with all the nivel peh? Especially when you are referring to “mouthing off”.

It is true I am very thankful to live in these United States with all our liberties and we are surrounded by mostly good people- both Jewish and non-Jewish alike.

However, included in the sheva mitzvos bnei noach is 1) against the judge discriminating against the litigant because he is a sinner. 2) against the wanton miscarriage of justice by the court. 3) against incrimination by circumstantial evidence. 4) against punishing for a crime committed under duress. 5) ensure the enforcemnet of the other 6 of the sheva mitzvos.

Our secular courts today DO NOT punish against avodah zara and therefor the judge is perhaps not serving as an “halachic” judge who demands respect in the first place.

People say “you better show the judge respect”. Is there a reason to show a judge respect other than the fact that there are a lot of guys with guns listening to him and will destroy your life if you don’t?

Would the same people be saying that about a judge in Nazi Germany? That one should show him respect? What about a judge that is an atheist or supports gay marriage? Do they deserve respect as well simply because there are guys with guns following his orders?

Because she was a little disrespectful/lightheaded in court the judge doubled her bail which could essentially destroy her life if she doesn’t have the money. Because she perceived her ability to survive as threatened she cursed at the judge instinctively. He then took away her freedom for an entire month. This all happened in the first place because of a non-violent crime. A Jewish dayan in the sanhendrin was obligated to have children of his own because he needed to have rachamim. Where was the rachamim here? Where was the warning? How come he did not first tell her “you need to respect my position and if you don’t I will be forced to double your bail to uphold the dignity of the court”. He never warned her of any of this. That aside, one must show a judge who is doing avodas Hashem the utmost level of respect and to not do so should be punished. Is a judge who is serving in an arguably corrupt court system that is God-less and does not punish against homosexuality or even avodah zara deserving of such respect? I think not.