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daniela
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Hmmmmm.

I knew since the beginning where this was going to lead, because normal people don’t have a problem with other people’s stringencies, maybe they don’t take those upon themselves, maybe they even think they are misguided, but do not ridicule those who do, much less on Pesach when we are taught we have to be stricter than usual, because of our habit to eating chometz year-round. Still it is fascinating to watch it unfold.

It started with quinoa, a seed from the Americas which was unknown in past centuries.

It continued with corn and corn derivatives, which also come from the Americas, but many have an established minhag to avoid.

So far it is a discussion on certain seeds and whether or not we should equate them to kitniyot. Of course some communities eat and enjoy kitniyot, that is the real ones, on Pesach, and they may also enjoy the new seeds as long as they’re chometz-free and grain-free. So essentially you are telling the vast majority of Askhenazim that they are wrong in abstaining from the new seeds (I wonder why do people get annoyed if Askhenazi scholars forbid, say, corn for their own Askhenazi followers, scream about Askhenazim supposedly imposing stringencies on Sefardi Jews, and yet, they feel qualified to teach everyone?)

Wait a few days. Now you are telling us R”L that mamash chometz gamur is fine and dandy to eat on Pesach, you actually give us a number, you claim it’s batel shlishi. And you are stating that saying differently is R”L a sin and people have to beg forgiveness on Yom Kippur. There is more to it. You even suggest that chometz created during the holiday – not only the chometz which came to be despite our best efforts, but also the chometz someone may have created due to laziness and negligence and ignorance – is similarly nullified and that “the original version of the Gemora” is different. You continue with telling us that someone unknown has falsified R”L the Rabbis’ words (must be some chumrah-loving Askhenazi; I wonder how he succeeded in having his supposed modifications accepted unchallengedly by everyone else). So, according to your statement, we are basically following in the footsteps of a mistake or deliberate falsification.

Did I understand correctly? If I misunderstood, I apologize, but you may want to clarify, because that’s what is written in your post above.

Perhaps you also believe the parts about karet are falsified? Or you don’t believe in it altogether? Or do you believe it does not apply to you?

By the way I happen to be a newly-Askhenazite (since 15+years). I do not miss kitniyot and certainly do not miss checking kitniyot. You check kitniyot according to Sefardi minhag, right? Or you don’t care?

PS You may want to address those people you respect and hold by as RABBI XY, not as R’ (R’=Reb=Mr – why do you use a Yiddish expression in referring to Sefardites?) and not as plain and simple “XY”.