charliehall -“Modern Orthodox Religious Zionism is the True Torah Judaism that has been practiced for millenia. Charedi isolationism is a relatively recent phenomenon, just a few hundred years old (and in its extreme forms, rejecting all secular education, only a generation old). And we have been praying for a return to Zion for almost two millenia.”
I’m not going to convince you that you’re wrong, but that wasn’t my point. You and other Zionists here seem to have no problem with the current Israeli Gov. If you believe in the Torah, how come you have no prob with them considering they plan on removing laws regarding basic keeping of the Torah, eg. more bussing on Shabbos?
“Besides, there is a practical matter: Without the State of Israel, millions of Jews would have nowhere to go. Disappear Medinat Yisrael and we will have another Shoah thanks to the Arab and Iranian rashaim. And you are allying yourself with them.”
Turkey can take over Israel and the UN with US can put in measures to protect the Jews there. Not that it would be needed because I don’t see Turkey arresting and killing all the Jews in their country now.