ROB -“I used to be a regular poster on this site but the coffee room has been taken over by extremist posters, who are more in tune with Iran than with the Jewish people”
See that’s your mistake. People who have a Mesorah against Zionists in your mind is Iran. Actually this Mesorah is based from Gedolims’ Shittos. Yes, some in the Klal did go for the Medina, but Most Gedolim were against it, even if they joined it like the Agudah.
And you say we have to belong to the Jewish people. I assume you mean the Majority of the Jewish people. No, we won’t give into Buses on Shabbos and Goyim getting getting papers saying they are Jewish or citizens of Israel or people getting married against Halacha. The Jewish people and the Torah are one. So we are the Jewish people, not the Zionists. We have not sold our principles like the MO’s who have joined forces with Lapid in destroying (at least trying to) the Jewish face of Israel. They think being in power is more important than the Torah. They will learn the hard way.