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HaKatan
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DaMoshe, again, I believe your latest comparison is also incorrect.

Let me spell it out: “Michanfin laRasha mipnei Darkei Shalom”. So this is “fair play”, at least in whatever cases it halachicly applies. But allowing gay clubs is not.

SJS, why go OTD if your theology claims it’s permissible to be over aveiros within the framework of “MO”? So your comparison to BY is not valid, as you can’t, for example, go mixed swimming as a BY.

As has been mentioned before, Rabbi Soloveichik invented MO as a horaas sha’ah because he was afraid that traditional Orthodoxy would become a relic. B”H, his fears were quite unfounded, and, besides, as he himself wrote then, the further one can distance one’s self from culture the better. I guess MO doesn’t hold of that part.

As a matter of practical application, for instance, any male who attends a Broadway show, even with eye coverings and earplugs, as ridiculous as that is, is still a halachic rasha (though I do respect his efforts).

I don’t see how any true Orthodoxy could be worse that halachic rishous, though I don’t claim that all segments of Orthodoxy do everything correctly. But I don’t know of any segment of Orthodoxy other than MO that proudly institutionalizes certain aveiros as muttar. For instance, I’ve never seen reviews of bars/pubs and the use of semi-vulgar “street” terminology in Hamodia or Yated, but I have seen both in a YU publication since, I suppose, that’s part of being “modern” and therefore muttar.

As for MO thriving, it’s nice that the Teaneck is thriving. But MO is still what it is.