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waaaaaaah -“Did you read the part where exsoldier said that if you go to nachal haredi, ‘there are no females on the bases’?

Also, I happen to be an ex-soldier myself. And exsoldier’s post is correct.”

exsoldier -“health: yes, even in boot camp nachal haredi have their own little base slightly separated from the main base. They most certainly are not forced to listen to women sing as they are never in a position where they will be with women. I fail to see what is so hard to understand.”

I read your posts about “No women” etc. But whether you mean to lie or just are so blinded by your way of life – I don’t know.

I always research my posts before I post. I found a blog from Frum IDF soldiers that the training he went through – he had to – “roll around with female trainees”. This is his quote, not mine.

The other said they don’t do this anymore – he never claimed though – he didn’t train with them.

“As for ya’harog val ya’avor, when the army forces someone to serve idols, commit adultery/incest, kill an innocent person not posing a threat or cause one of the public specific types of relevant chilul haShem, then we will have something to talk about. Until, then, if someone is attacking me or those under my protection I will kill to defend, army or not.”

I don’t know what kind of Torah teaching you had, but it is defecient. Perhaps you’re a BT or didn’t learn in good Yeshivos, but your Torah knowledge is lacking. The Halacha is clear -Yahrog Val Yavor applies even in Abizrayhu. This means even something as far as women singing or “rolling around with women trainees”, you’d have to give up your life and not do these things.

“I find it ironic that there are religious jews who are publicaly anti-israel, the country that today represents jews to the whole world, and cause a huge public chilul haShem – something that could perhaps be considered ya’harog val yavor.”

Another defeciency in your Torah knowledge. The only things that can be a Chillul Hashem are things that are Not against the Torah. Putting down a Medina that was/is based on Kefira is a Kiddush Hashem, not a Chillul Hashem. Chillul Hashem is Not something against the popularity of something -it’s something against Hashem and his Torah.