writersoul -“HaKatan: The notion of Zionism to which most frum people object, the Zionism from Herzl to Ben Gurion, is largely extinct now. The belief as it was thought of by Israel’s original settlers is pretty much dead- The socialism that birthed Zionism is dead, which means that most of the MO (and not) Jews who celebrate Israel do not come under the label of “Zionist” that you revile so much.”
My question to you is -so how come they still have a State of Israel -they should have given the land to Turkey a long time ago?
And I agree it’s dead, but what’s in its’ place is much worse.
The current Israeli Gov. run by the likes of Lapid & the MO is much worse than the Gov. that was run by Ben Gurion. At least the latter had the sense to exempt Bnei Torah from the draft!