Naftush, I in no way compared the establishment of the Sate of Israel to the Holocaust. I merely pointed out that saying “Hashem caused the founding of the Medina, it must be good” is every bit as ridiculous as saying “Hashem caused the Holocaust, it must be good”.
147:
The existence of a secular state claiming to represent the Jewish People is a tremendous Chillul Hashem, and its insistence on provoking the Arabs has cost tens of thousands of Jewish lives. If you think that’s the beginning of the Geula, I have a bridge to sell you.
ROB:
“But- confounding the anti-zionists- it also does not make the Zionist leadership of any color “kofrim’.”
No, the fact that they were kofrim is what makes them kofrim. You can’t rewrite history.
“it is incontestable that the founding of the medinah has brought great blessings and hatzlocho to the jewish people. For that reason alone, we should praise the establishment of the medinah.”
The fact that the Medina has brought benefits to the Jewish people does nothing to whitewash its underlying, secular ideology. We do not support that ideology in any way, shape or form; ergo, we do not support the state.