To Rational Frummie and everyone else in agreement with him.
I am confused as to why on earth this arguement is going on in the first place.
Hashem, through his Torah clearly states the socialising between genders is assur. PERIOD.
That is Halacha. And all your proofs in the world aint gonna change the halacha.
And besides, Hashem never, ever, commands us to to anything that is not possible to do. So what you are essentially saying is that you think you are smarter then Hashem.
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Just in case Hashem needs someone CV to back Him up, there are plenty chassidish/yeshivish people who do not socialize b4 marriage and date perfectly fine, albeit slighttly akward in the beginning, get engaged, and live beautiful marriages.