@DY and where did I equate frumkeit with absolutism. I call straw man again. I was arguing with what was implied (intentionally or otherwise) when you said that the “only” cause of otd is emotional trauma and not “frumkeit”. My response was that perceived absolutism on the part of parents and rebbeim either through mistaken beliefs by the parents/rebbeim themselves or through incredibly awful chinuch plays a major role in a lot of kids going otd. And yes enforcing crazy chumras (I am NOT referring to separating genders here) and equating them with halacha is part of it. Some people seem to believe that an overload of negative reinforcement is a necessary component in educating jewish kids. I believe this to be incredibly counterproductive and counter to simple saichel.
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