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Jbaldy and squeak
We have a Torah we don’t look at their culture. Besides society is at a very sick low. Google teenage pregnancy if you want go know what goes on.”
Everything you say is completely true (didn’t want to quote the whole thing). But to play devil’s advocate for just one moment, I recall a story of a child who was misbehaving badly, so the father potched the kid closest to him. When the child (rightly) protested, the father commented, “Now BOTH of you get the message.”
Perhaps it doesn’t seem fair for our kids to get “potched” when they are not becoming unwed parents. But the influences unfortunately are still around us in many ways. while I personally do not believe that it really helps the situation to forbid normal kids from going to the local pizza places (why cannot the rabbonim be a visible presence at popular hangouts, on a rotating basis?), nonetheless, I recognize the potential for problems with certain kids, while at the same time not wanting to alienate the ones who ARE behaving themselves.