The goq
+1 Most guys who do Seed have no interest in actual kiruv and its just an excuse to go somewhere they wouldn’t ordinarily go and have someone pay the bills. I know of a group that went someplace and where they were staying there was a TV with cable. One of the guys basically watched tv all day and they all used the TV to various extents. These are boys from Yeshivish homes that don’t have these things in their house. For those who truly want to do kiruv its a nice thing to do but I can’t say I am a fan of the program overall.